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ozvtr Update: If you are going to fly this frame on 4 cells you MUST soft mount the flight controller. The 3mm arms are too long, too flexible and cause "mid throttle oscillations" even when soft mounted. You also need to go into Betaflight (if that's what you are using) and set up a custom motor profile to reduce oscillations. If Banggood is listening, you need to go to 4mm arms and move the camera mounting slots farther back. As I said, a good cheap BEGINNER frame.